What is this site?

Haggis Hell is the personal weblog of Robert Kiraly, aka OldCoder, a software developer for 40 years. It started due to an unusual pair of gag-order cases that ran from 2012 to 2013, but it collects threads of different types now.

Pieces will move around to different pages, but the short links listed on Twitter should continue to work regardless.

The gag-order cases will continue to be one thread. We look forward to legitimate and and reasonable steps, protected under U.S. laws, related to colorful characters such as:

Jim Kiraly (VP of Transamerica), Grace Kiraly (Christ Follower), Tom Kiraly (CFO of Hanger, Inc.), Ken Kiraly (VP of Amazon and a lead at Lab126), Michael Bonetto (a Rising Star attorney), Maggie Desmond (a noble woman, certainly), John Perrott (a Fundamentalist Family Law attorney of distinction), and other people that you'll come to know and love.

181209 Sunday — Are Jim and Grace Victims of Title Fraud?

181209. Are Jim and Grace Victims of Title Fraud?

This post will move to its own page later.

I'm concerned about my parents, Jim and Grace Kiraly. It's been reported to me that they might be the victims of Elder Abuse in the context of Title Fraud.

For those who might be able to comment, here's a link to a PDF that provides some updated information related to Jim, who seems to have relocated to Solvang, CA:

Click here for Jim_Kiraly_181209.pdf

A screenshot of part of the PDF is provided below.

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P.I. reports that door was unlocked

A private investigator, Keith Krasnove of Corporate Security Investigations, has visited the Kiraly house at 6329 Twinberry Circle, Avila Beach, CA on two occasions that I'm aware of recently.

The context was a wellness check. A police chief had commented to me, previously, that this might be a sensible check to conduct and had considered handling this for me himself.

The house is in a gated community. The community is sometimes referred to as Avila Estates, but the correct name is apparently San Luis Bay Estates.

Kiraly Avila Estates Research

There are two gates into the community. One of them is a “front” gate located next to Blue Heron Realty.

The “front” gate includes a guard-house which is open until 9:00pm daily. It's apparently the same schedule 7 days a week, but this isn't confirmed.

The 2nd gate is a “back” gate located next to a fire station. That gate uses buzz-through and/or RFID stickers.

The Realtor's office was under the impression that visitors are required to use the front, or guard, gate. However, I was told by one guard that visitors may use either gate.

If visitors weren't allowed to use the back gate, why would buzz-through be supported? And what would happen after 9:00pm when the guard-house closed?

I'm the one who “gathered” this information, to use a term from the 2012 to 2013 Gag Order Cases.

I hadn't had much experience with “gathering” this type of information prior to the cases, but I seem to have improved.

My understanding is that Keith parked near the rear gate, waited for somebody to open it and drive through it, and followed them through before the gate closed.

It sounds simple, but a lot of P.I.'s don't want to go to the bother of getting through the gate, so they'll press you to pay them thousands of dollars for “surveillance” instead.

“Surveillance” means that a P.I. will park outside the gate and wait for hours to see if a subject happens to drive out. In such a case, the P.I. can follow them and gather information.

One problem with this is that the P.I. is likely to lie about conducting surveillance. You'll pay thousands of dollars. In return, they'll go there just long enough to be able to prove that they were there.

Another problem is that there may be two gates, as there were in this case. How is surveillance supposed to work, then?

Kiraly Research Cash

But the real issue is that, if you've identified a residential address and you'd simply like to confirm physical presence or do a wellness check, surveillance is absurd.

In this case, a P.I. needs to just go through the gate and knock on the door. If you ask a P.I. to do that and he or she presses for surveillance instead, you're dealing with a fraud who is hoping to steal thousands of dollars from you.

My favorite gated community story has to do with a P.I. who tried to convince me to pay him for surveillance by stating that he had a “reliable informant” in a gated community — the same Avila Beach complex that Keith Krasnove visited — who lived next-door to Jim and Grace Kiraly.

“So,” the P.I. said, “they're confirmed to be living there. Pay me thousands of dollars for surveillance and we're sure to get results”.

Lacking in intelligence

“Um, fool,” I replied, respectfully. “If there's a reliable informant living inside, why in the world would I pay you for surveillance? I'll pay you to talk further to the informant. Who doesn't exist, you lying piece of sh*t.”

Actually, I spoke more casually. There's more to the story and it's pretty funny. I'll post the details another time.

Another favorite gated community story is about a courier who told me that there was a special way to clap.

This was in Texas. The subject in this case was my brother Tom Kiraly, VP of Hanger, Inc. It turned out to be a moot point because Tom lived in a gated house as opposed to a gated community. But we didn't know that initially.

Clap for Tom Kiraly

“Clap with the right rhythm,” the courier said, “and the gate will open like magic”.

I remain literal despite all that's happened. All that I've learned. So, I believed him. When he realized this, he quickly explained that he was joking.

That guy was great. I'd hired him to deliver a birthday card and a bottle of wine to Tom. Tom didn't seem to be home, so I told the courier to keep the wine for himself.

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Bottle of wine for Tom Kiraly VP of Hanger, Inc.

On December 6, 2018, Keith and a partner, Jackie Hermo, noticed that a door at the Kiraly house was unlocked. They entered the residence without instructions from me to do so. Keith explained subsequently that this was out of concern for the safety of my parents.

Keith and Jackie found the house empty. Photo:

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P.I. reports that door was unlocked

Krasnove reported:

“We then went to 6313 Twinberry and spoke to a man and woman. The man identified himself as 'Jim Lawson'.”

In separate communications, Krasnove elaborated that “Jim Lawson” had represented himself as a “real estate agent”, that other neighbors had done so, or both.

He wasn't entirely clear about who had said what. But, close enough.

Krasnove continued:

“He [Jim Lawson] acted very suspicious and said James and Grace Kiraly were going to Texas to be with one of their sons. He then went with me to lock your parents' home. He said the home was being sold for $759,000.00.”

This doesn't seem odd so far. Jim and Grace might have talked to “Lawson” about the possibility that they'd move to be near my brother Tom Kiraly, a son who resides in Austin, Texas.

Jim and Grace have apparently moved to Solvang, CA, instead. The fact that “Lawson” got the two destinations mixed up may not be significant.

Or Jim may have instructed people to lie about his doings or whereabouts. But that doesn't add up, because some neighbors, at all of Jim's addresses over the past decade, have been positively chatty.

But Krasnove added:

“We ran a data base report of 6313 Twinberry Circle Avila Beach CA to attempt to determine whether the resident was 'Jim Lawson', the name given to us by the man who had the keys to your parents' home. The data base report that we obtained did not list Jim Lawson as a resident of that address.”

“We then attempted to verify that James Lawson was licensed as a Real Estate salesman in Avila Beach or any place near Avila Beach.”

“We found that there was no James Lawson licensed as a Real Estate salesman in any area within a reasonable distance of Avila Beach.”

“Since the person told us that his name was 'Jim Lawson' we searched the California State Real Estate License site and found no person by that name was licensed in California.”

Krasnove summarized as follows: (edited for spelling and length)

“The next door neighbor who had the key apparently refused to give his real name. His wife and he acted very suspicious. In addition, he told us a false story saying that your parents were buying a house in Texas to join your brother, when in fact they are in Solvang, California.”


“We therefore believe that your parents may be the victims of Title Fraud.”

Krasnove provided this FBI link as a reference:

Click here for FBI article

He closed by asking me to pay him hundreds of dollars in advance to look more closely at the situation.

So, Tom, Ken, Riane, etc., what do you make of all of this? Is somebody trying to lighten Jim's and Grace's wallets by $759,000? Or is this just a case of a shady P.I. diligently attempting to fatten his own wallet?

Keith Krasnove, FWIW, is an interesting character.

My first choice was a police chief who was in the process of transitioning to P.I. work. He'd have been able to get through the gate.

He talked about possibly just climbing over it. This is apparently legal under some circumstances; if a police chief tells me that, I'm inclined to give some weight to the point.

But the police chief dropped out due to being a controversial figure in that area. He decided that he'd better stick to mundane cases until he'd completed his transition.

So, I talked to Krasnove.

Krasnove definitely isn't inexperienced or run of the mill; that's why I hired him despite signs of potential problems.

But he does seem shady. And he made an unusual threat on December 4, 2018 which strongly suggested that he was a con man.

I realized that my money was going to disappear without a trace. So, I made a gentle attempt to explain to Keith that it might be polite and appropriate for Corporate Security Investigations not to steal from me or to threaten me.

Keith and Jackie made the final visit to Twinberry Circle two days later.

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Keith Krasnove and Jackie Hermo

Letter to Keith Krasnove

On a related note, here's a letter that I sent today to Keith Krasnove of Corporate Security Investigations.

Keith, here's my take on things:

1. This letter and/or communications in both directions, past, present, and/or future are likely to be posted online, quoted, or otherwise distributed or made use of.

This letter, in particular, is probably going to go onto my weblog, Haggis Hell, today. This would be one way of calling attention to the possible Elder Abuse issue that you've reported.

2. You could have been more clear regarding what your gut instincts were telling you about the situation.

You haven't even seen fit — unless I've missed the response — to answer my question regarding what you meant when you said that “Jim Lawson” was “suspicious”. Did you mean that he was behaving suspiciously or that he was suspicious of you?

3. “Jim Lawson” might have lied to you regarding his name. The rest of his story might be true or false regardless.

The appropriate course of action might be as follows:

(3a) I could speak with local Realtors to determine whether or not the house in question is listed as For Sale. If it is listed, I could relay what you've said to the listing agent. The listing agent would certainly be able to comment further.

(3b) If the house isn't listed as For Sale, I could discuss the matter with the police, with the local equivalent of a county-level Elder Abuse department, and/or with HOA management.

(3c) Come to think of it, I should send the story to Harvey Levenson. He's a business associate, of some type, of Jim Kiraly's of 25 years' standing, he's local, and he's even, apparently, the legal owner of the couple's previous residence.

(3d) Tom and Ken Kiraly, the middle two of Jim's and Grace's four surviving sons, will probably be interested as well.

To be clear, my brothers don't “like” the couple, but they'd know about the move. If Jim is now in senile dementia — which you've hinted that you know more about, but haven't elaborated on — one of them might even be the person who is coordinating the sale.

Scott Kiraly, the youngest brother, isn't a factor. He might be deceased due to morbid obesity. If he's living, he wouldn't be involved in Jim's business affairs.

Jim would only consider, I think, trusting the middle two brothers, though he did ask me, years ago, to take on some of the responsibilities that Tom has now assumed.

4. You've suggested that I send you payment for additional work. I have reservations about doing so until previous business is concluded.

In particular, I need for you to do one of two things:

4a. One option is for you to voluntarily, and explicitly, waive a recent $80 charge that I didn't authorize. Note: I'm not saying that I wouldn't have authorized the charge; that isn't the point.

You seem to have waived the charge twice already, so I'm not sure why you'd object to this. The issue, for me, is that I'd like to see the waiver stated more explicitly.

4b. Another option is for you to accept payment of $80. However, prior to such payment, you'd need to acknowledge the following points:

(4b1) I haven't made a “chargeback” for “$1000”, or for any other amount, on any transaction.

(4b2) I didn't explicitly authorize the $80 charge and payment will not constitute acknowledgment of prior authorization, or of prior or present agreement to any terms or conditions previously agreed to in any other context.

(4b3) You're satisfied that I've met all commitments and/or obligations of any type that I may, or may not, have to you, with the words “commitments” and “obligations” to be interpreted in the broadest possible sense.

If you press Reply, quote this letter, and add the words “In connection with Part 4, so agreed” I'll authorize you to set up a formal payment link or other mechanism to address the $80. The commitment to the authorization is subject to review of the contents of your letter and/or subsequent letters from you as a whole.

5. As a point of information, I've discussed part (4b1) — for roughly one hour — with an Operations Manager at the relevant bank on my side.

Technical note: An Operations Manager is Tier 4. There's Front Line (Tier 1), Supervisor (Tier 2), Manager (Tier 3), and Operations Manager (Tier 4).

The Tier 2, in this case, sent the matter to Compliance days ago with escalated priority. The Tier 4 says that Compliance has already approved the release of documentation to me.

I expect to be in possession of said documentation shortly.

My bank would only be able to see some of the past transactions that you've engaged in as your clients use multiple financial institutions.

So, speculation to the effect that Corporate Security Investigations' business model consists, in part, of fraud and that you may therefore have an unusual number of chargebacks remains, for the moment, little more than speculation.

But the Tier 4 has been kind enough to explain that a payment gateway which you may have used extensively, Square, is coupled to a particular financial institution, JC Morgan Chase Bank.

My bank could initiate communications with JC Morgan or I might be able to do so myself. JC Morgan, in turn, might be able, due to terms and conditions that Square had to have agreed to, to require Square to take a look at your transaction history.

6. You, Keith Krasnove of Corporate Security Investigations, CA PI 20897, have made a point of touting, to me, your performance in the current case.

However, in the process, you've been careful to avoid commenting on the fact that you seem to have lied regarding your performance in written statements made on December 4 and 5. Remember that verifiable dates are involved.

This is in addition to a false statement that you made, in writing, on December 4 regarding a “chargeback” and an associated threat that you made to “sue” me, your client in good faith, “for fraud besides the damages in the Agreement”.

Isn't this the sort of thing that might give pause to parties who are assessing Corporate Security Investigations as a candidate for their research needs?

People come to Corporate Security Investigations, State of California P.I. 20897, seeking to find a way to make things right. In some cases, their lives have been damaged by criminals, abusers, and the like.

The evidence suggests that you may make it a practice to steal from these people and to use predatory contracts and your past experience with legal cases to walk away smiling, their cash in your pocket.

There are other possible explanations for your actions on December 4. However, none of the possible explanations reflect especially well on you or are likely to boost your reputation. Am I correct or incorrect about that?

On December 4, you used the words “making a big mistake”. I think that perhaps you should pause and reflect on your own words.

7. I'd like to discuss the advisory work that you offered to do a while back. But, if such work is done, there isn't going to be any contract remotely resembling the one that you usually press hapless and trusting clients to sign.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

181007 Sunday — SLO On With the Show.

181007. SLO On With the Show.

I'd like to thank my Mac OS X friend at for confirming that he or she reads my Twitter. I try to make that feed informative and perhaps I've succeeded :)

One thing that's odd is that I see the iPhone at in use in the same minute at one point today (1:15pm PT) as the Mac OS X PC.

My visitor seems to have used the iPhone for about 20 minutes and then switched, for just a few minutes more, to the other machine or device.

Perhaps it isn't the same person, after all. If it isn't the same person, though, it's two people who are closely associated.

Jim Kiraly Phone Friends

I've had that happen before. One person will look at the sites, phone another person, and they'll go over things together. Sometimes I can follow the calls in real time.

The Mac OS X visitor started at 6:11am PT today. WTH. Switched to cellphone, if it's the same person, at 7:38am PT.

The iPhone visited a few times throughout the morning. Then there was a switch again to Mac OS X at 1:15pm PT.

No firm conclusions yet.

I've known for years that Jim Kiraly, other family members, and/or their associates were reading the sites.

It's difficult to miss when somebody tries to read an offline copy, presses the wrong link, and sends me his Windows directory structure.

That's happened more than once, folks. :)

By the way, Google Cache isn't actually a proxy. I can see some accesses there. To maximize anonymity, you need to use Tor or a VPN. And that, of course, is a step that may attract attention in and of itself.

This reminds me.


This site is pleased to use such new technologies related to the gathering of information as may become available.

As a related note, visits to this site constitute agreement to the installation, without further notice, of software or edits to system configuration of such types as site owner may deem it appropriate to install.

The latter point will be moved, in due course, to the site notices.

But who is so interested right now?

Jim Kiraly Dawn is a Feeling

The number of visits, combined with a 6:11am PT start today — literally dawn — bespeaks more than idle curiosity.

If this is an attorney or an assistant who's accustomed to this sort of thing — or both — the patterns don't seem quite right.

Friends or neighbors of the Kiralys would be interested, but not so interested, and the majority — at least in the Kiralys' past locations — are already familiar with the prosecutable crimes committed by the people in question.

Christ's opposition to wife-beater Jim Kiraly is unstoppable

As a technical note, this site is prepared to move on short notice to Dubai or Viet Nam. Or to split, for legitimate and reasonable purposes protected under U.S. laws, into a dozen independent copies.

Or to transition to decentralized distribution. Or to move to the Onion framework. It's about time that that step was taken. At the Onion level, with proper setup, the site will outlive me and everybody else involved.

The Anonymous group is an option as well. Actually, I should have talked to them long since.

Ideally, the remarkable story of the Kiraly Gag Order Cases will live on. In the end, perhaps it will make a difference.

Jim Kiraly of Avila Beach

The thought that I might help to send even one future wife beater such as Jim Kiraly of the San Luis Obispo area to prison for attempting to extort a gag order... the thought is cheerful.

It makes me smile.

The attorneys involved, in the original 2012 to 2013 cases, should be in prison as well. But the Free Speech story of their lives, their careers, and the decisions that they made will promote positive social goals in and of itself.

181006 Saturday — Nipomo Homes and Sherlock Holmes

181006. Nipomo Homes and Sherlock Holmes.

We've been seeing more visits than usual from Nipomo, CA, Arroyo Grande, CA, and other cities in the area. So, I've taken a look to see what data loose could be shook.

One of the IPV4s involved is Apple iPhone with a 414 by 736 display.

On 181006, three databases geolocated the IPV4 as follows. Note that consumer-grade geolocation is inaccurate. Additionally, the location of an IPV4 may change from day to day.

01:(35.0298 -120.4894) 02:(35.2827 -120.6596)
03:(35.2565 -120.6210) 04:(35.2828 -120.6600)
05:(35.1665 -120.4376)

The ISPs mentioned were Spectrum and/or Charter Communications in each case.

Google suggested that #01 was at 271 Ponder*** Place in Nipomo.

I'd have stopped there, due to the inaccuracies of geolocation. However, I noticed that that address is the home of an LLC named HUBB5 Financials which was created on September 15, 2016.

This is a period during which Jim Kiraly may have been looking into such setups. The LLC had, additionally hidden, its members. But further research turned up the surname of a principle, Hubble, which was consistent with the LLC name.

Nothing to see here.

#02 was a SLO business named Ferro Mobius. Some sort of architecture company.

#03 seemed to be in a lake. Splash. #04 was at the San Luis Diagnostic Center, not far from Ferro Mobius. And #05 seemed to be a POP or repeater out in the wilderness.

So, nothing conclusive or useful here, either.

Another visitor connected multiple times from The OS was Mac OS X in this case. He or she used both Safari and Chrome.

Display size showed up as 1280x800. This seems too low for a monitor. But cellphones and tables don't run Mac OS X or do they?

On 181006, geolocation databases showed these records for

06:(35.3172 -120.8333) 07:(35.2827 -120.6596)
08:(35.2565 -120.6210) 09:(35.2904 -120.8101)
10:(35.2828 -120.6600)

Now, it gets slightly interesting. 3 of the entries are exact matches shared by the 2 IPV4s.

This suggests, though it doesn't confirm, that the two visitors were the same person. And that he or she is, or was, physically located at or near one of the coordinate pairs in question.

2 of the 3 matching pairs are quite close. It seems safe to say that our friend is, or was, physically located, in the past few days, near latitude 35.2828 longitude -120.6600.

Update: A third IPV4 address,, turned up and geolocated to the same location. Before rounding, that one showed up as:

11:(35.282750 -120.659620)

The extra digits should be viewed with suspicion. However, whether or not they're accurate, this is in the vicinity of 1100 Monterey St, San Luis Obispo, CA. The building includes San Luis Diagnostic Center and possibly other businesses as well.

So, somebody with at least three different networks is interested in Haggis Hell.

181001 Monday — Grace Kiraly birthday

181001. To my beloved mother Grace Kiraly.

Grace Kiraly of Avila Beach

First, I had DOBs and SSNs mixed up in multiple posts previously. I regret any confusion :'(

This is a birthday message of love and respect to Grace Kiraly, DOB October 01, 1933 and SSN 556-40-1879 :3

The identifying information is provided for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws. See the note to attorneys in the next section below.

Grace's last three confirmed street addresses were 6329 Twinberry Circle, Avila Beach, CA; 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, CA; and 217 Gerry Court, Walnut Creek, CA. She may or may not have been in Newport Beach, CA for a few months circa 2015 to 2016.

Gold Cross of Love

Attorneys and others: You're invited to review the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes list at this link. Subsequently, read SSN legal notes at this link.

As a technical note, mirrors of this site in countries located outside of Europe are planned. Decentralized distribution is a possibility as well.

Jim Kiraly of Avila Beach

People new to the tale may find a summary useful:

Jim Kiraly, DOB and SSN provided further down, is a wife beater. Inappropriate sexual conduct is publicly asserted, additionally, to have taken place as well.

In 2011, I nearly died due to a medical issue shortly after my birthday in mid-year. It took me the rest of the year to reach the point where I could walk again.

During this period, I though about life and decided to work on a book that I'd started in 1971. I mentioned the book to my parents and asked for their help.

Jim assumed that the book was going to be about how he'd broken my mother's nose. He always did assume that the world revolved around him.

Jim told one of my brothers, Tom, that I was planning to accuse Tom of raping his children. Jim and Tom then initiated two legal cases designed solely to extort my signature on a gag order.

I never signed the gag order. The cases lasted a year, but there wasn't even a Court settlement. The Court, in the end, wanted nothing to do with the gag order.

I was essentially a Pro-Per. My attorney was working with Opposing Counsel to defraud everybody on both sides. But I f*cked Jim and Tom regardless.

I forced them to sign, instead, a formal agreement in which I promised to f*ck them for the rest of their lives.

It's my legitimate and reasonable goal to do what's possible now to ensure that these people and others like them aren't able to do this again.

Jim is more important than Tom because Jim will pass away soon, assuming that he isn't dead already.

However, perhaps in a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws, society will find a way to address the prosecutable crimes that each of these people has committed in turn.

For details, feel free to review my Father's Day 2016 Letter of Love to Jim Kiraly of Retired Active Men SLO Branch 2. It's at this link:


Fun illustration from a 2013 Father's Day post. To read the 2013 post, click here.

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Father's Day
Grace Kiraly of Avila Beach

Grace Kiraly, beloved harlot of hate
With the Cross you masturb8te
The Christ that you claimed to see is dead
You sh*t upon His head
And in the flood He drowned
You're sort of a Hatred Clowned

Grace Kiraly of Avila Beach

Heavenly and Earthly Fathers alike disown you
Even Ivan Kmeta would sh*t down your throat
You'd need an Ivan excrement moat
But there's no need for sadness to ensue
You'll slide down into Hell in due course
Your prosecutable crimes will ride you like a horse :o

In the interim, C*nt, let me treat Jim as would Allen Funt
That is the legitimate and reasonable plan
YouTube isn't an also-ran
Is Jim alive? Is he dead? :?
If he's alive, there's a message to be said
More in the post below, ho', let's go :!

Grace Kiraly of Avila Beach

Grace, I need to determine, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, whether you're actually still resident at 6329 Twinberry Circle, Avila Beach, CA or you've skipped town to move into a house or room owned by Tom or Ken or one of the trusts :?

Tom Kiraly CFO of Hanger, Inc.

This section is for those who can help me to determine whether or not Jim and/or Grace are located in one of Tom Kiraly's properties or provide, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, other information related to Tom and the prosecutable crimes that he's committed.

Tom Kiraly's full name is Thomas Evan Kiraly. His mother's maiden name is Kmeta. His DOB is January 24, 1960 and his SSN is believed to be 545-13-7011.

Attorneys and others: It would be ever so delightful if you would review the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes list and SSN legal notes linked previously.

Tom Kiraly CFO of Hanger, Inc.

Tom Kiraly's full known street address history is posted elsewhere on this site. I'll add a link here when I get around to it. No “round tuit” jokes, please :P

As of 2018, Tom is believed to be the CFO of a medical supplies firm in Austin, Texas named Hanger Inc.

Tom and his wife Karen Louise Kiraly, nee Washmon, have three children that I know of, all young adults: Riane [sic], James, and Michael.

The older two, Riane and James, are involved in prosecutable crimes that Tom has committed and may need to testify in connection with those prosecutable crimes.

BTW Yes, I'll have causes of action for decades to come. There is a simple fact of the Gag Order cases which eliminates some of the deadlines involved.

Ken Kiraly VP of Amazon Corporation

This section is for those who can help me to determine whether or not Jim and/or Grace are located in one of Ken Kiraly's properties or provide, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, other information related to Ken and the prosecutable crimes that he's involved with.

Ken Kiraly's full name is Kenneth Paul Kiraly. His mother's maiden name is Kmeta. His DOB is January 24, 1960. His SSN may or may not be 573-45-7687. The SSN is in doubt because two other people seem to be using it.

Attorneys and others: Kindly review the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes list and SSN legal notes linked previously.

Ken Kiraly VP of Amazon Corporation

Ken ought to look into that last part about the other two people. No, I had nothing to do with it. The fact simply turned up years ago. I'm doing Ken a favor by mentioning this.

But, then, I've done Ken favors in the past as well. From age 12 months to ages 12, 16, 19, and beyond. Right up to the point where Multiscope ran out of funds.

Feel free to Google Multiscope. More about that story another time.

I'm doing Ken another favor right now in connection with the one secret that he's never told his wife and sons.

If Ken decides to put me under oath to find out what I'll disclose, I suppose that I'll have no choice in the matter. I've had mixed feelings about the issue for decades, but perhaps it'll be interesting :)

Ken Kiraly VP of Amazon Corporation

Ken Kiraly's full known street address history is posted elsewhere on this site. I'll add a link here when I get around to it.

Ken's wife Virginia Chang Kiraly is a rising star in the Republican Party. Ken and Virginia have two sons that I know of, both roughly college age, Paul and James.

As of 2018, Ken is believed to be a V.P. of Amazon and one of the leads at Lab126. Grace Kiraly has claimed that Ken was the lead developer for the Amazon Kindle.

Grace Kiraly of Avila Beach

Grace Kiraly, Christ Follower, I intend to get people into Avila Estates to do a wellness check based on the legitimate and reasonable nature of my filial devotion to Jim and you :3

Such a wellness check will, naturally, be conducted in full compliance with the Law.

However, one of the P.I.s that I've talked to is too expensive, one is mentally ill, and one is a fraud. It isn't easy to find the right person, so I'm proceeding carefully with the P.I.s who remain on the list.

Grace Kiraly of Avila Beach

BTW, Grace Kiraly, Christ Follower, I reported the mentally ill P.I. to your local FBI office. You can read my report to the FBI at this link:


So, there's not going to be a knock on door at 6329 Twinberry Circle, Avila Beach, CA any time soon. Unless I'm trying to trick you, but I love and respect you too much to do that :3

Grace Kiraly of Avila Beach

There *will* be a knock on the door, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, at 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, CA.

WTH is going on there?

Who is Harvey Levenson and what is his connection to the wife beater Jim Kiraly who is also guilty, it is asserted quite publicly as a fact, of questionable sexual conduct? :?

Scott Kiraly of Lots of Oreos

Is Harvey Levenson actually Jim Kiraly or just an attorney or trust person? :?

Have you got the retarded and OCD Scott Kiraly living at 32 La Gaviota? Scott is supposed to be in Pleasant Hill, CA, but some records do state, quite explicitly, that he's associated with the La Gaviota address.

Scott Kiraly of Lots of Oreos

But Scott is 53 years old and, unless the situation has changed, over 300 pounds. People that weight don't usually live much past 50.

Has Scott died? x_x

If so, have you been so impolite as to neglect to inform me of the loss of one of the two people, Jim being the other, who destroyed your life and all chances to exercise the creative impulse that you manifested decades ago?

I suppose that the last part doesn't matter. Grace, you were always fluff without substance.

Even if you'd left Jim Kiraly, a step that you discussed with me repeatedly, and even if Scott Kiraly had died in infancy, as would have been best for everybody, including Scott, you'd never have finished anything of consequence.

Grace Kiraly of Avila Beach To conclude, Grace Kiraly, Christ Follower, I have a message for your violent abuser and my own, Jim Kiraly, in the event that he's still alive.

If Jim has joined the choir invisible, Grace, you've denied me the closure that was my right :/

Jim Kiraly of Avila Beach

Jim, if you're not in the grave, Hey, Bro.

Who is Harvey Levenson? The name, you know, that you've apparently been associated with for 25 years. Why are all the loans and/or sales connected to that name?

However, the important message for today is this:

Jim Kiraly of Avila Beach

The odds are now low that I'll be able to locate you before you croak from natural causes and, in a legitimate and reasonable sense that is protected under U.S. laws, f*ck you in a friendly and consensual manner until you squeal with the passion and religious joy that is the essence of your abuser Christian Spirit.

But, Jim... I don't wish you to go without the comfort of knowing as you rot unredeemed... that those who stood by you as you committed multiple prosecutable crimes worse than rape...

...will receive the love and respect that is their due :3

Jim Kiraly of Avila Beach

P.S. I haven't been afraid of you and your fits of rage since 2012. You were a coward, after all. If only I'd realized that 45 years ago.

If you're still alive, Jim, my abuser, my b*tch, and if you can hold on for just a little longer, I'll be pleased to demonstrate, in a legitimate and reasonable manner that is protected under U.S. laws, the degree of love and respect that I have for you.

You and the others, Jim, you'll always be there in my heart :3

180825 Saturday — Ivan Kmeta's 117th birthday

180825. Ivan Kmeta's 117th birthday.

Ivan Kmeta

Today would have been Ivan Kmeta's 117th birthday.

Ivan, my mother Grace's father, was a remarkable man.

He was an adult, more or less, when the Russian Revolution hit. The next few years were problematic. They shot, for example, most of the young people his age that he knew.

Ivan escaped the Soviet Union in the 1920s with his wife Olga and son Anatol, became a religious leader of the Ukrainian Diaspora, wrote books and poetry for decades, and outlived the Soviet Union by a decade.

Ivan was born in the same year as heavier-than-air flight. He saw the rise of the Atomic Age, radio, television, and the Internet. He didn't understand computers.

In 1978, I tried to explain the profession that I was headed into. It wasn't easy to find the words.

<OldCoder> I'll be working with machines that think
<Ivan> Oh. All right.

I remember standing outside Ivan's house with him in 1975, when Ivan was approaching age 75. I figured that he didn't have long to live. This was disturbing. But he lived over 20 years after that.

I can see 75 on the horizon now, myself. It's no longer inconceivably distant.

I was considered Ivan's spiritual heir. But there is no such thing as Spirit, is there, Grace? You defecate on the Cross and expect others to bow down to the result.

No, thank you, Grace Kiraly. You, yourself, have demonstrated that Ivan's life, all that he stood for, was a pointless joke.

Laugh, Harpy, laugh.

Ivan's poetry is lyrical. I'd hoped to translate it to English, but that isn't going to happen now.

Instead, the legacy for the poetry, the last role that it played in the world, is in the Court cases that Ivan's son in law Jim initiated to cover up the fact that he'd hurt Ivan's daughter Grace.

Tom Kiraly of Hanger, Inc.

My brother Tom Kiraly, VP of Hanger, Inc. in Austin, Texas, filed Court papers in 2012 characterizing Ivan's poetry as acts of physical violence.

Tom, my sweet, plump, b*tch, in a legitimate and reasonable sense that's protected under U.S. laws, you belong to me.

Ivan Kmeta was unusually gentle. So, he wouldn't actually sh*t down the throat of Tom or Grace if he met them today. His wife, Olga, was more direct. She'd undertake the task if she was here.

Gag Order Cases research

I'm “gathering information”, a term used in the 2012 legal cases, for legitimate and reasonable purposes protected under U.S. laws, related to Grace, her husband Jim, my brother Tom, and others.

It isn't clear that Jim is still alive. But Grace should be good for a decade. The others, for longer than that.

Cash will be paid for information. I vet, by the way, steps taken with attorneys and with active and retired police in appropriate jurisdictions.

Grace Kiraly of Avila Beach

Grace Kiraly's DOB is October 01, 1933. Her SSN is believed to be 556-40-1879. Her full name is Grace Violet Kiraly and her maiden name is Kmeta. Her mother's maiden name is Kerechanko.

I've posted Grace's past street addresses before and will create an organized list for that information in due course.

If Grace is still in the Pismo Beach-Avila Beach area, she'll be a member of one or more Churches there. It's possible, though, that she and her husband have skipped town.

Attorneys and others: Review the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes list at this link. Subsequently, read SSN legal notes at this link.

Jim Kiraly of Avila Beach

Jim Kiraly's DOB is May 10, 1933. SSN is probably 038-20-8134. Full name is James Francis Kiraly. His mother's maiden name is Varsa.

Jim seems to have loans or other financial transactions under the name Harvey Levenson or in association with a party of that name.

Additionally, Jim and his son Tom, my next younger brother, hide assets behind trusts.

Attorneys and others: Review the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes list at this link. Subsequently, read SSN legal notes at this link.

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Jim and Grace Kiraly of Pismo Beach and Avila Beach

Doge is not rogue
Surely Doge is in vogue
Let there be Doge
Such family
Much joy
Very loving
Jim Kiraly's soul
Is used to stir sh*t in a bowl
His whore is a bore
“Family” is lies
But no need for sighs
*Family* is where you find it

Family is on my mind for reasons other than Ivan's birthday. I'm thinking today about Loome as much as Ivan.

I've known Loome for 6 years. He has his unusual talents, as do many of the different. One of them is kindness. To read the poem with which he introduced himself in 2012, click here.

This year, Loome flew to see me. No other business. Just to hang out with the Old Coder. Kappelin had come to see me just 2 months before. Blue Dream has talked about a visit. I travel periodically to see DNA, RNA, std::vector, and others.

It's not a large group. It won't last forever. But it's more than I had for 25 years.

As a note to Kim from online, think about it and you'll recognize the name “DNA”.

Loome, aka Rubidiun and Dr. Beth, is my adopted son. The relationship isn't formal, but we've agreed that the term fits.

This week, Loome is in Germany. He'd thought to meet Metacognician, though that wasn't the primary reason for the trip. But Metacognician is traveling, himself. “Excellent timing, Loome,” he says :P

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German Doner Kebab

Faust, 1974 interpretation:

Loome says:

Tomorrow, I'll visit Goethe House. Goethe is important to me. I read Faust 15 years ago. It had a big impact.

I want to try doner kebabs. The best kebabs are here. Metacognician is here. I've known him for longer than you have; did you know that? The Finnish guy is here, too. I think I've told you about him.

It was raining earlier. Petrichor (smell of rain) was lovely.

This is in Wiemar, by the way, the birthplace of Goethe. I was hearing the sounds of goats just moments ago.

That there's this hill type thing. It's a lovely place, gorgeous, where a lot of goats roam free. I'll go and pet the goats tomorrow. I like goats.

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Loome Germany #1

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Loome Germany #2

<OldCoder> (a dramatic German scene)
<Kappelin> I'll take “Generic Scenes from Deutschland” for $500, Alex
<OldCoder> Here's another one
<OldCoder> <Alabama> that could be me
<Kappelin> not alabama but anywhere in europe sure
<OldCoder> It's a typical German scene, then?
<Kappelin> general euro
<OldCoder> How are you today?
<Kappelin> 50%
* OldCoder relates

180808 Wednesday — Posts have moved
The Mia the Cat story has moved to its own page at:

Recent rhyme posts have moved to:

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Mia Kitten
180808 Wednesday — Captain Tobin Rides a White Horse Doo-Dah

180808. Captain Tobin Rides a White Horse Doo-Dah.

Note to Matt Tobin of Kokomo, IN:

I didn't realize that you were reading my Twitter feed. We should talk.

Not in IRC. That isn't going to work as you tend to threaten to hunt me down and kill me and kill me again. So much kill.

But let's exchange email about #UXP and #Thunderbird.

180808 Wednesday — FBI by and by

180808. FBI by and by.

There's no doubt that 2012 to 2013 and subsequent years have changed me.

The things that the Kiralys and their supporters did, the realization of what has been taken from me, the types of decisions that I've had to make; how does this sort of thing affect neurology?

I can tell you this: If it doesn't kill you, what's left is probably no-nonsense.

I'm pretty busy, but I need to deal with tasks related to Jim Kiraly, DOB May 10, 1933 and SSN (for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws) 038-20-8134.

Attorneys and others: Feel free to review the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes list at this link. The SSN legal notes at this link may be of interest as well.

In particular, I need to confirm that Jim is, or isn't, still living and to address, for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, the physical locations where this wife-beater who is guilty, additionally, of sexual misconduct is hiding and attempting to conceal the prosecutable crimes, including felonies, that he's committed or is involved in.

This means hiring P.I.s and researchers of other types.

Some of these people are honest, committed, and hard-working. And some are flakes and nutcases.

Anthony Esparza, of Eyecon (or Eye-Con) Investigations — the firm of that name in the SLO area, not the one in Australia — is one of the flakes and nutcases.

I discussed Mr. Esparza with the SLO branch of the FBI recently and have submitted, with their approval, a report related to his conduct.

On August 07, 2018, the FBI confirmed receipt of the report. So, I'm posting it here.

I'd like Anthony to have a copy, but I'm not presently in communication with him. People who are associated with him are invited to pass along a copy.

My report to the FBI consists of a six-page PDF. You can presently read or download the PDF at this link:


My cover letter to the FBI is posted further down.

Those who are inclined to poke fun at a report to the FBI of such a minor matter as this one should note that I'm not presenting it as significant.

Anthony Esparza, a P.I. who resides in or near Arroyo Grande, has implied that he has shadowy FBI assassins in his pocket who will eliminate me at his behest. They “have”, he says, his “back”.

All that I've done is mention to the FBI that this seems impolite.

BTW to Jim Kiraly: File in an attempt to prevent me from “seeking [your] address” for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, abuser b*tch, and you're aware that it'll backfire.

As a related note, I already have what's supposed to be your legal address. If it's simply a front connected to your attempts to conceal or obscure your role in multiple felonies, this raises interesting legal questions.

The Vomit of Christ spews forth when He considers that the fact that a shambler such as you has the temerity to enter a Church. But the thought makes you smile, doesn't it, Jim?

We'll see. If you haven't kicked the bucket, I trust you don't object to showing the smile in a YouTube special.

You have zero rights, of course, to privacy in any context. The notion, if it comes up, will be mocked.

If you *have* kicked the bucket, we'll be comforted by the fact that your whore is still present and able to receive legitimate and reasonable demonstrations of the respect in which she is held.

Anthony Esparza isn't the flakiest P.I. that I've encountered in the Avila Estates area; i.e., one of the areas that is presently of interest.

There's a story about another P.I. from a year or two back that's much funnier. I'll write that story up when time permits and put more about this side of things on the following site:


This is my cover letter to the FBI. To obtain the PDF in question, click here.

ATTN: SLO-area FBI office

I'm writing subsequent to a phone discussion with Employee [Redacted]. She and I agreed that it would be all right for me to submit an informal report of a matter that is minor but may be of interest to the FBI.

Please see the attached 6-page PDF.

I'm only requesting that receipt of the PDF and delivery to somebody who will review it be confirmed. This is, again, an informal report. I don't need to know if action is or isn't taken subsequently.

The short version is that a P.I. local to your office has suggested that he has special influence with local FBI agents and has relayed an implied threat from one of them to me.

I suggest that a manager have a polite chat with the P.I. regarding his use of the FBI name. This is only a suggestion. For details, see the PDF.

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

180701 Sunday — Port of elfutils to musl

180701. Port of elfutils to musl.

musl elfutils

This post is for those who know what "elfutils" and "musl" are and would like to get one into the other.

I've ported "elfutils" 0.173, which seems to be the latest official release as of 180701, to musl 1.1.19.

Other ports exist. However, most are distro-specific or for older releases of "elfutils". This port should be useful to developers working on their own "musl"-based distros.

This wasn't a small task.

elfutils is madness
elfutils is horror
elfutils is descent into pit
Into musl elfutils does not fit

So, I'll share the resulting patch file and procedure with others interested in "musl".

Questions and comments may be sent by email to: oldcoder@yahoo.com

For me, at any rate, the patch file and procedure produce a clean "elfutils" build including executables and both static and dynamic libraries.

The "gcc" and "binutils" used were releases 6.4.0 and 2.27, respectively, as built by Rich Felker's "musl" cross make toolkit located at:


You can download all of the special files required, not including musl cross make, in a single ZIP archive at this link:


The link will probably change later.

The ZIP file contains these files. You can download the ZIP file at this link. Or you can get the files inside it at the links below. Text files linked here have been renamed to "*.txt".

Name Notes
README A copy of this post
argp-standalone-1.3.tar.gz "libargp" library sources
argp-standalone-1.3.tar.gz.url URL where I obtained preceding
elfutils-0.173.tar.bz2 "elfutils" 0.173 sources
elfutils-0.173.tar.bz2.url URL where I obtained preceding
libargp-01-alpine-funcdef.patch An Alpine patch for argp*
libargp-02-alpine-gnu89.patch Ditto
musl-elfutils-180701.patch My "musl-elfutils" patch
obstack-git-180701.tar.bz2 "obstack" library sources
obstack-git-180701.tar.bz2.url URL where I obtained preceding

Here's the "build" procedure. You'll most likely need to make changes based on your OS configuration.

1. Start with a distro based on "musl" 1.1.19, "gcc" 6.4.0 or 7.2.0 or above, and "binutils" 2.27 or 2.28.

You'll need a full standard development toolkit, including recent releases of "autoconf", "automake", and related packages. "bzip2", "xzutils", and "zlib" libraries and header files as well.

In the following sections, you can change the PREFIX setting used, but two rules apply:

* The same PREFIX setting should be used in each script
* $PREFIX/include should be a directory that "gcc -I" knows about

2. You may, or may not, need to rebuild various existing libraries with either or both of these two changes:

* Use the "gcc -fPIC" flag
* Build both static and dynamic libraries

Skip this part initially. If you get error messages later related to linking with existing libraries, come back to this point and decide whether or not rebuilds might help.

3. If your distro doesn't provide the "libargp.*" library and associated header files, build and install "argp-standalone". Use the two Alpine patches provided.

The following script may work, with changes:

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#!/bin/bash -e PREFIX=/usr/local mkdir -p $PREFIX/{bin,sbin,include,lib} # rm -fr argp-standalone-1.3 tar zxf argp-standalone-1.3.tar.gz pushd argp-standalone-1.3 patch -p1 < ../libargp-01-alpine-funcdef.patch patch -p1 < ../libargp-02-alpine-gnu89.patch touch compile autoreconf export CFLAGS="-fPIC -O2" # ./configure --prefix=$PREFIX make mv argp*.h $PREFIX/include/ mv libargp.a $PREFIX/lib/ popd

Warning: This package shouldn't be installed on a "glibc"-based system unless you take steps to prevent it from being used without special "gcc -I" and "ld -L" switches.

Even on a "musl"-based system, this package may break GNU "tar". If this happens, you'll probably be able to fix the problem by fiddling with "tar" Makefiles.

4. If your distro doesn't provide the "libobstack.*" library and the associated header file, build and install "obstack". The following script may work, with changes:

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#!/bin/bash -e PREFIX=/usr/local mkdir -p $PREFIX/{bin,sbin,include,lib} # rm -fr obstack-git-180701 tar jxf obstack-git-180701.tar.bz2 pushd obstack-git-180701 ./bootstrap.sh export CFLAGS="-fPIC -O2" # ./configure --prefix=$PREFIX make && make install popd

5. Edit "musl-elfutils-180701.patch". Look for this part:

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+argp_LDADD="-L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib ... ... +obstack_LDADD="-L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib ...

If "libargp.* is installed somewhere besides "/usr/local/lib", modify the "argp_LDADD" line appropriately.

If "libobstack.* is installed somewhere besides "/usr/local/lib", modify the "obstack_LDADD" line appropriately.

6. Build and install "elfutils". The following script may work, with changes:

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#!/bin/bash -e PREFIX=/usr/local mkdir -p $PREFIX/{bin,sbin,include,lib} # rm -fr elfutils-0.173 tar jxf elfutils-0.173.tar.bz2 cd elfutils-0.173 patch -p1 < ../musl-elfutils-180701.patch autoreconf # export LIBS="-L$PREFIX/lib -Wl,-R$PREFIX/lib -lbz2 -lz" export CFLAGS="-fPIC -O2" # ./configure --prefix=$PREFIX make && make install

180621 Thursday — Meet the Jetsons

180621. Meet the Jetsons.

This post is for those who remember the original Jetsons 1960s TV series. 1962 to 1963. 55 years ago.

I wasn't especially fond of the Jetsons, but they did become part of the collective subconscious of the U.S. as far as the future went.

We were supposed to have robots and flying cars. We did get tech, some of it superior to Star Trek TOS level. But no robots or airborne roadsters.

More importantly, we're less advanced now, socially, than we were 40 years ago. 1978. That was the high-water mark.

How did things go backwards from there?

There's increased tolerance for differences. More so each year. But only among sentients.

In the U.S., the last two years have seen something else come out from under the rocks. Something hasn't been as out in the open as it is now since the 1930s.

It's emboldened.

People similar to my parents believe that it's their world again. The world of the Klan and of the swastika.

There's more than one time of Klansman.

You've got the type, of course, that's outspoken. Then there's the upper-class type that wouldn't dream of saying certain things out loud... but it's offended primarily by bluntness. Not by fundamental assumptions.

The second type nods quietly at assumptions. It works backwards from the conclusion that they're correct.

So, there are households where no one would dream of saying the word “N*gger”. But there are books and magazines on the coffee tables which explain that slavery was a blessing to the Blacks.

Who, the assumptions say, are lazy and don't wish to work.

The working-backwards part is the key. The key to what you see around you.

This is the mistake that sentients make: It isn't about differences of opinion or tolerating diverse views.

It's about the way that the brain itself works. A defect in the amydalae. The non-sentients are unable to reason in contexts where they perceive “The Other”. Unable to reason to the extent that brain-waves go flat.

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This is true, to an extent, of human beings in general. But it's a defining characteristic in the cases of the Klan, the Nazis, and the Trump-ites.

In short, it's a biological condition. One that can be tested for. Tests to identify the issue exist.

It's pointless to attempt to reason with such types. To seek a middle ground that doesn't exist.

In the end, if humanity is to move forward, something more fundamental will need to be done.

The tests should be formalized and put to use.

The principle of “The Other” can be summarized as follows:

Only sentients work forward from facts. Non-sentients work backwards from conclusions in all matters where the idea of a pack-level “side” can be applied.

If you're on the wrong “side”, facts don't matter to the non-sentients. There is no point to pointing out the facts. This is how it works.

It isn't time for the Jetsons or Star Trek yet. Or any world of the future.

The world that is supposed to be isn't going to exist until the things that were hiding under the rocks, and are now out in the open, are addressed.

Technical note: My parents are, of course, Jim and Grace Kiraly, previously of the Pismo Beach, Avila Beach, and Arroyo Grande tri-city area. For a legitimate and reasonable cash offer related to these people, kindly click here.

DC Comics apparently started an “adult” Jetsons print series in 2017. I don't know if it's still running or not.

The page below is from a Jetsons prelude story that appeared in “Booster Gold / Flintstones #1”.

In this scene, Judy Jetson chats with her grandmother, George Jetson's mother Rosemary Jetson. Rosemary is a dying woman who was apparently born in our era.

Rosemary's fate is odd enough that the series might be of interest to geeks who remember when the future was different.

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Sample Jetsons page

To close on what is definitely a lighter note, the artwork below is a Deviant Art take on the Jetsons by nerdybunni. nerdybunni has been at Deviant Art for 7 years.

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Jetsons artwork
180619 Tuesday — ICE data issue

180619. ICE data issue.

The ICE data issue is probably moot because a copy is apparently up at WikiLeaks. I don't have the link yet.

This post will remain for now to prevent a broken link.

Streisand Effect

TOR isn't a bore
Nor is it to adore
It's a tool
To freedom fuel
TOR all day and all night

Streisand Effect too
Shall ensue
Data always finds a way
Data all night and all day

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Jetsons artwork
180619 Tuesday — Science Fiction remarks

180619. Science Fiction remarks.

From Twitter.

Simon, the strongest catgirl, said:

I think my only experience with science fiction outside of video games is like, ringworld. I really need to read more books within the genre

@BoldCoder responded:

Try best #sciencefiction from all decades. Smith: Ballad of Lost C'Mell. Clarke: The Star. Sturgeon: Man Who Lost the Sea. Ellison: Deathbird. Kessel: Another Orphan. Zelazny: For a Breath I Tarry. Carr: Dance of the Changer and the Three.

Avoid series novels. Read Hugo winners.

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Science Fiction
180619 Tuesday — Is That Ham?

180619. Is That Ham?

From Twitter.

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Is that ham?

Bully, the Little Stuffed Bull, said:

is that... is that ham

@BoldCoder responded:

Donald Duck Thanksgiving

180515 Tuesday — Superman's nightmares

180515. Superman's nightmares.

From Twitter.

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Superman as Electroman

@garaujo1 said:

May 14, 1997 — This Day During Superman's Triangle Era

@BoldCoder responded:

The Electric #Superman shown in the OP is now canonically one of the “real” Superman's nightmares. Not that it's a simple matter to define the “real” Superman after 33 years of endless reboots and retcons.

See the panel below. From Dark Nights METAL #4 courtesy of Screen Rant.

Superman's nightmares

180616 Saturday — Life's Not Grim with a Dash of Jim

180617. Life's Not Grim with a Dash of Jim.

I'd forgotten that June 17 was Fathers Day this year. So, I've updated this post to add a cheery Fathers Day rhyme. This is excerpted from a letter sent to loving family members.

Ken and Virginia, I've gone public regarding sexual misconduct on Jim's part. If I decide to post details here, I'll dare you to say just as publicly that the details aren't exactly like Jim.

On a separate note, ask Harmeet Dhillon for a copy of the primary letter that I sent her in the past few days. I Cc'd her on another one. I'm referring to the letter that's more focused on communication issues.

Attorneys, note that I've used the word “misconduct” here as opposed to “abuse”. If it's a distinction without a difference, I don't give a quack.

The ironies continue to pile up.

Addressing family members as a group, all that you needed to do was put an end to the stalking and threats on your side. The messages that I left on my birthday in 2012 were intended to be Goodbye Forever. That wasn't clear?

I'm good presently for 15 to 25 more years. Well, maybe just the low end of the range. Or perhaps I'll emulate DNA the Elderly Attorney and make it to 87. We'll see.

This site and/or others will be present, most of the time, as the years pass.

I've thought of a way, in fact, to ensure that the sites outlive me. If it works, there will be no centralized copies. Takedowns won't be possible, even after I'm gone. The sites might even make it to the Singularity.

Such future.

Pro Tip: There is no such thing as “cyberspace” or “The Cloud”. The idea is ludicrous. It's all just virtual machines, routers, and fragile temporary storage, mostly owned by corporations that come and go.

But think outside the box.

Jim Kiraly Father's Day

For those of you who do
a copy receive
a copy that you perceive
here's the sitch
Jim is an abuser b*tch

Your roles in support
are worth a legal tort
But today is Father's Day
Hip Hip Hooray

Is Jim alive or dead?
What have natural causes said?

Jim Kiraly Father's Day

If he's alive
for one goal you need to strive
Wish him Happy Father's Day for me
There is more, of course, to see

A friendly greet is in a tweet
at @BoldCoder
is the link
that's not all, I think

Does Haggis Hell ring a bell
If so, wife-beater lovers
Simple are my druthers
Let your fingers over the mouse hovers

Jim Kiraly Father's Day

Come and see
what there is to see

Nothing will make such as thee say “Gee”
But from the truth you'll not flee

If Jim from natural causes deceased becomes or is
I won't feel relief and drink cola fizz
Closure I was denied
This won't be addressed with sighed

Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes protected under U.S. Laws
Belong to me
Therefore in a
Legitimate and Reasonable Sense protected under U.S. Laws
so do thee

Good Day to you
Let joy and laughter ensue

Oh, Well

1. I've accepted the fact that Jim Kiraly may have passed away from natural causes. Or that he may be alive but may pass away before he can be brought to legitimate and reasonable justice that is protected under U.S. laws.

Jim is the heart of the story. He'll be missed.

However, after he goes to serve in his role as lubrication for Lucifer's mentula — you've earned it, Jim, relax and enjoy the honor — others will remain to provide love, support, and legitimate and reasonable research opportunities that are protected under U.S. laws.

But I've talked to a few P.I.s recently. Some of them have Law Enforcement backgrounds. I feel that it may be possible to determine, once and for all, if Jim's two residences in the Avila Beach area are, or are not, a dodge.

I say two residences because it appears that Jim may still own the property at 32 La Gaviota in Pismo Beach.

I'm supposed to be good at details. How is it that I missed the three Kiraly points illustrated by the screenshot below?

a. Harvey Levenson, who is probably just a legal artifact, has been interwoven with my father's affairs for 25 years.

b. WTH is that $418K in 1993 about? It wasn't related to a sale of the Walnut Creek property; that didn't happen until about 5 years later.

c. Does the screenshot below mean that Jim Kiraly still owns 32 La Gaviota in Pismo Beach? If so, who, exactly, is physically residing there?

Scott? Are you down there instead of in Pleasant Hill where you're supposed to be?

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Kiraly-Levenson Properties

2. I'm seeking, for legitimate and reasonable purposes protected under U.S. laws, information related to Jim Kiraly's location and involvement in local affairs.

Attorneys and others interested in the Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List are invited to click on the link below:

Legitimate and Reasonable Purposes List


It appears that somebody has posted related useful information on the webpage linked below:


A close reading of the laws involved suggests that it's quite legal, in the context of criminal as opposed to civil law, to post that type of information publicly subject to various strict rules.

The rules *do* have teeth, but it's clear that they're applicable only in specific contexts. This is intentional on the part of lawmakers. It has to do with business and law enforcement issues.

In fact, such posting may or may not even create a cause of action in the civil arena.

These are casual observations, of course, until such time as such information is posted on a site that is under my control.

To read legal notes related to the laws which regulate the use of such information, attorneys and others are invited to click here.


As a related note, I'm offering cash for information, to be used for legitimate and reasonable purposes that are protected under U.S. laws, related to the location and activities of the wife-beater Jim Kiraly.

Information must be obtained in a strictly legal manner.

Jim Kiraly of Pismo Beach

3. In the Kiraly Gag Order cases, Jim accused me of making false statements related to sexual abuse. He didn't cite a single example. This was par for the course.

It was the same for spousal abuse. Jim accused me of making false statements related to spousal abuse, but he didn't cite a single example in this context either.

Jim was, of course, guilty of spousal abuse. I was forced by the legal actions to discuss his past. It was most likely awkward for his attorneys, though only slightly.

Attorneys don't too care much if their client turns out to have lied. Not as long as he or she is worth tens of millions of dollars.

One might wonder, since I hadn't said anything, why Jim felt the need to talk about sexual abuse.

I've decided that we're going to clear that part up.


This paragraph is a formal announcement that I've offered to state under oath details of a sexual incident involving Jim Kiraly of 6329 Twinberry Circle, Avila Beach, CA; 32 La Gaviota, Pismo Beach, CA; 217 Gerry Court, Walnut Creek, CA; Transamerica Corporation; Retired Active Men; and Service Core for Retired Executives. The Newport Beach address is unconfirmed.

Information that may help to locate and identify this person who has committed numerous prosecutable crimes, including multiple violent felonies, even if he's changed his name and/or left the country, has apparently been posted by some party at this link. Notes on legal issues related to such posting may be viewed at this link.

The point of the offer is that I'm seeking to be sure that organizations which might allow Jim to volunteer for them are aware of his involvement in spousal abuse, child abuse, and prosecutable crimes of other types.

It's my understanding that, unless Jim is convicted — which is unlikely due to the fact that he'd pass away before any trial was concluded — I'll need to approach organizations individually to have him placed on different “Caution” lists.

This might be time-consuming. But perhaps I'll be able to work out some type of statement format that will work for multiple organizations. With luck, the part about a statement under oath may turn out to be the key element.


But, organizations in what area? Is the violent abuser Jim Kiraly still in the area that includes Pismo Beach, Avila Beach, and Arroyo Grande or has he fled?

Is he, perhaps, staying elsewhere in property owned by Ken Kiraly and Virginia Chang Kiraly or renting property through a trust?

Photo: Ann Kiraly, Jim Kiraly's mother, and Olga Kmeta, Grace Kiraly's mother. Jim picked up the cycle of violence from his parents Frank and Ann and continued it.

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Ann Kiraly and Olga Kmeta
140313 Thursday — What Happens to Older Developers?

This post is old but will remain on the front page for the time being.

140313. Jeff Jenkins posted these questions and others recently at Ask Hacker News:

What happens to older developers? Is there a plateau in pay? Is there a drop in pay switching jobs after a certain number of years? Is becoming a specialist rather than a generalist the answer?

To read the original post, click here. Note: The link was valid as of March 2014. However, it may have broken since then.

This is my response:

Developers who go on long enough are expected to obtain high-level titles by their 50s or to retire at about that time.

I'd like to discuss an issue that you might not have thought about: What's going to happen if you lose your job?

Employment in the 50s can be problematic. If somebody is skilled and employed, and has a high-level title or is a specialist or has useful connections, they should be able to obtain a new position.

Otherwise, they might go from well-off to homeless. It happens. I'm 55, my resume is pretty good, and I was worth $1M a decade ago. I'm a transient now. I've got some medical issues, no medical care, and no dentists. Potential jobs are largely unskilled physical labor, which I'm not able to do.

I'm taking a shot at tutoring. However, I don't expect that to provide more than gas money. The head of an admin assistant firm said that I can't be a secretary unless I already am one.

Two people considered sending me to care for elderly relatives, but we didn't proceed. My title at one of those positions was going to be “poop scooper”.

Don't let this happen to you. For what it's worth, here's my advice:

1. Don't fall off of the employment ladder.

2. Become a specialist. Try to remain broad enough, though, that you don't become obsolete.

3. Build a network of people. Make it a large one.

4. Diversify your investments.

5. While you're employed, don't let medical issues, even minor ones, go untreated for long. If you lose your job and your assets, you'll lose medical care too and the issues may become serious.

6. Be kind to people. But don't be a fool. Most people that you help are not going to return the favor.

Regarding specialists, I did recruiting for a while in 2011 and I can confirm that the filters are weighted against generalists.

I've spent about 35 years myself as a generalist. My jobs called for it. The place where I spent most of my career took any project that came along, code of any type. At a dot-com that followed, after the money ran out, I handled all of the technical roles; IT, websites, development, support, documentation, etc. I was able to do a bit of everything.

Later on, none of this made a difference. There are few job listings that say “a bit of everything”.

After the dot-com shut down, 2003, I made $1M in the stock market. Lost most of it afterwards and reentered the job market. Learned that middle-age generalists were not in high demand.

In my case, there were other factors that won't apply to you. It's a story for another time. But if you're a generalist who falls off of the ladder in middle age, you can expect things like this:

“With a resume like that, why isn't he a CTO? Why doesn't he even have a job?”

You'll be asked questions about algorithms that you haven't thought about for 30 years. Or you'll go through coding tests under adverse conditions that don't allow you to show what you can do.

Plan ahead. Understand that the best-laid schemes of mice and men often go awry.

My own resume is located at:


These are my links. Yes, the technical site needs Twitter Bootstrap :P

  1. Technical site (oldcoder.org)
  2. My GitHub
  3. My LinkedIn
  4. My Twitter
  5. OldCoder Nerdcore Song

Regards, Robert (the Old Coder)

It Happens to Everybody
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